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I maybe measuring a course in Wheeling West Virginia that has some very punishing hills that the race director has said when you ride up them that you will weave going up and I am wondering if anyone has run in to this problem and what they have done to get around this?
The race is the Ogden 20k race and they are changing the course to make it a half marathon.
Thank you for any input on this.
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I prefer walking on steep hills.
a while back Pete & I were measureing a steep hill section of a course. Pete got off and walked the bike holding down on the handlebars, loading the front wheel.
I rode up the hill and although I thought I got the better measurement, Pete beat me on that mile segment by about 3 meters.
I re-learned the Old Bull/Young Bull lesson that day.
An alternative would be to ride down the hills but that makes for extra work and can be difficult to convey to a certifier. Does riding DOWN hills not have some effect on the measurement due to added speed, riding the brake, or not pedaling?
I suppose you could calibrate walking the bike, then note sections where the bike was walked. This would probably be best if the course was mostly hills.
About a year ago I added a 70cc gas engine to the bike I measure with so hills and long hot days are less of a problem.
Ah, the variables we encounter in our endeavor to accurately measure courses!

As Mike and Pete said, the un-weighting of the front tire adds length to the uphill section. The steeper the hill, the more length is added. But, if you wobble, you are canceling that un-weighting factor to some extent. If you wobble too much, you over-compensate for the un-weighting, and the segment is shorter than what your Jones would indicate. Such a dilemma!

Unless the hills are longer than a couple-hundred meters, and so steep that you wobble excessively or walk, I don't think it should be a material difference. If you do walk, be sure to lean on the handle bars as you walk, to give some compression to the front tire.

That will be an issue I will try to address when the snow melts - the difference in clicks between uphill and downhill rides on various grades of roads. Anyone else is welcome to note their observations, so we can compare variance, and also reference tire types - hard pneumatic road tires, hybrid-bike tires, mtn. bike tires, and I will contribute data for airless tires with a 120 psi equivalent.
The most extreme uphill I’ve measured was on a 100 km point-to-point course. It also had a 60 km event which tied in to the 100 km course.

The course had one major hill, which rose 600 meters over the first 21 km, them descended gradually to the finish.

We laid out a cal course near the start on a flat road, calibrated, and loaded the bikes into a truck and drove to 21 km. Then we measured back to the start.

We repeated this procedure when we measured from 21 km to the 100 km finish. There were 5 riders, and the entire measurement took two days.

Read all about it in Measurement News Issue #81, January 1997. To find it go to www.rrtc.net and search for the Measurement News Archive. Or go directly by using

http://www.runscore.com/coursemeasurement/

It was one of the most tiring and most scenic routes I’ve had the pleasure to ride.
Also interesting/sad to see that a storied 20 km race is succumbing to "(Half) Marathon Mania" and changing distance. Not surprising; the race director of the New Haven 20 km told me he thought a similar change would result in a 10-20% increase in entries. People love the word "marathon" even if it's preceded by "half."
Long ago we used to put on a One-Third Marathon. Maybe it's time to revive that event.

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