rRTC 2016 agenda topic: Intermediate Jones counts required

Comment from Jeff John:

I thought we had this requirement.

Not really

My suggestion would be to require an intermediate count be recorded at least every 5k. That way a 5k could be measured without any intermediate counts, which I think would be okay.

One reason for intermediate split counts, even if someone (for whatever reason) does not mark the splits, is to have a reference for review.

If I measure a 10k and note my splits every mile, or km, or at a spot at a few intersections, I can check both of my rides to see that my clicks for each segment are consistent. As a certifier, this was a way I could see if a new measurer was 1) riding consistently, or 2) fudging numbers to make the overall length "work out".

I think intermediate splits are valuable, and would encourage their use.

I think intermediate readings are an invaluable tool, and we should very strongly encourage their use. I don't know if it has to be a requirement, I tend to think not.

If they are required, I like Mark's suggestion of at least every 5 km. I agree with Duane's comments but have to say you can't totally detect fudged numbers.

I concur with Bob, but would like to find verbiage such that, for example, we will get the quarter-mile splits on a certified road mile too.

When I had the chance to measure with Bernie in Canada a few weeks ago we noted, measured, and marked EVERY km in the marathon (41 splits + terminus + turn-around). Bernie drove Nail + metal washer at each km split. That gave us a lot of good data to analyze. I usually do every mile + 5 km splits (30 splits).

Capturing the split counts on the application data sheet is a good practice and should be encouraged.

JJ

I think we all encourage the recording of intermediate counts. The question is should we require some minimum level of intermediate counts? Should we accept a marathon application that has only a start count and an end count for both measurements?

I say for any course longer than one mile, one should show these Splits