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I got a telephone yesterday morning from a gentleman at the Illinois Toll Highway Authority (ISTHA).

Late last year the ISTHA opened a new stretch of tollway in the southwest suburbs of Chicago. One of the events they held to commemorate the opening of the new road was a 5K run. They didn't bother to certify the course. The event was held to benefit a local organization that aids military veterans, which is appropriate as the new toll road was officially renamed the "Veterans Memorial Tollway".

The gist of the call yesterday morning was that they are now looking at holding the event on an annual basis and would like to have a course certified on the new road. They're willing to close the road for the actual event, but not for a bicycle measurement, and they feel that trying to measure it with a calibrated bicycle without closing the road would be unsafe for everybody involved. The rationale is that people aren't used to seeing bicycles on the road and seeing one might cause an accident. They don't feel the same way about survey crews; apparently drivers are used to seeing them. Interestingly, they strongly discourage television camera crews for much the same reason- it distracts drivers, and causes accidents.

At present the road is less than six months old. They have a lot of GIS data on the road as well as the engineering drawings and surveys from building it. They're willing to put survey crews out to determine the length of the course.

We've talked about the calibrated bicycle method being a compromise. We're willing to give up what we lose in accuracy in favor of having a measurement that can be completed fairly quickly with equipment that most people either have or can afford to buy.

In this case it certainly appears I have a group who is prepared to spend the time necessary to survey the course and apparently already owns or has access to the necessary professional surveying equipment, including survey grade GPS. They apparently also have the in-house expertise necessary to operate the equipment and execute the measurement. They have drawings of the roads that will make up the route that are in excruciating detail, with permanent marks in the pavement every tenth of a mile and information such as the elevation of most every point on the road and the radii of all of the curves.

I'm thinking that this is a situation where we ought to at least consider certifying the surveyors' work. I'm not exactly sure how I would review it, but suspect some kind of meeting could be set up where I verified what they had sent me based on the original drawings or surveys of the road.

What do you think? We certainly have to require the course map that defines the limits of the course and shows the SPR, and I think we need to keep the SCPF. Any ideas on how the information could be packaged so that the certifier could interpret it?

This doesn't come up often, but if we can find something that works, we have it ready for next time.

Thanks.
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Jay, interesting posting. Many years ago there was a similar, but still quite different, situation in New Orleans. The Road Runners Club of American was having their annual meeting in New Orleans and had planned a marathon in conjunction with the meeting on the streets of New Orleans. A problem arose so that the race could not be held in the city. I think it was a police strike but I'm not sure. Someone got the idea to run the race along the causeway on Lake Pontchatrain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway

The longer of the bridges is 23.87 miles (38.42 km) long. The organizers of the race found the engineers' report on the bridge so they were sure they had that distance right. Then all they had to do was get their bikes out and measure the last roughly 2.5 miles (3.8 km). Ted Corbitt was attending the meeting so he signed the paper work and the race was on.

They opted to run the race, as I recall, from south to north and there was a terrific south wind that day. Many ran in sweatshirts using them as sails. There were a lot of people qualifying for Boston that day. Smiler

If someone that was there knows more or has corrections to my account, please jump in.

Alan
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Jay,
What about working with them to get the course measured, with their presumably accurate methods, SCPF and all-- but persuade them to close the road an hour before the run (or whatever time you think is needed) so you can ride it and check. I think it would be a fascinating study, and you could also be double sure that the course length is good. I'm not sure at which point you'd certify it, but I guess upon reviewing their work-- keeping in mind that you still might modify it after your ride in case something is off.
I'm also not sure if this would constitute a bike checking up on the engineers or the engineers checking up on our measuring methods. Maybe it's both.
Bob Thurston
Sometimes, a pre-race ride is the only way to do it.

Most recently, Gene Newman, his friend Fred, and I rode the men's OT marathon course the morning of the race - it was really the only way to ride the course the way it would be run, w/ water tables, coning, fencing, etc. in place.

I recall measuring another local 5K the same way, but for more of the reason you noted - the traffic was insanely dangerous when the roads were open, which was all the time.
Thought I'd post a follow-up on this. The race in question was this morning.

Over the last few weeks, it became apparent that the race was not going to draw the expected numbers, so the ISTHA decided that the race would be run only in the northbound lanes of the tollway. This required that they re-calculate the length of the course, which they did. They plotted a new course using only one side of the road and submitted it early this week.

This morning I measured the course between the time they closed the road and the start of the race. Using validation methodology (average constant, no SCPF) the 8K course came out to 8003 meters and change.

I'm not sure, however, if the way the course was measured and the way it was set up are exactly the same. There were barriers and cones placed in areas where I didn't expect them, and I'm not sure that calculations based on highway plans and GPS coordinates capture the true spirit of the SPR. I think you need to be out there on foot or on a bike to have the necessary feel for the concept of SPR.

It was also interesting that although they had calculated where the miles would be, nobody had set any marks. I did that on the validation ride. I also had to provide some guidance as to exactly where the turnaround should be. The documents were pretty clear- but nobody had passed the word on to the guys who were actually setting up the course. Reminds me of a famous line from "Cool Hand Luke".

I think if someone came back to me with a proposal to do something like this again I would listen to them, but I would strongly encourage them to get someone out there on a bicycle before the morning of the race.
I can't see much of a downside if they want to have a survey crew do the job. The main thing is that they follow the SPR. If they follow their idea of the route, not ours, it won't fly.

As for safety, A police car with flashing lights is, to me, the best protection. The car should FOLLOW the rider, not drive in front. I've asked for this a few times, but have never gotten it.

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