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INQUIRY ABOUT AN EXPIRED COURSE

Hi Pete,

Ted Rupe , race director for the Youngstown Peace Race needs to change the last mile of the Peace Race 10k race.

It was certified in 1993 by Mark Courtney and the Number is OH93002RE. I told him it is over 10 years old so it isn't an active certified course. I guess my question would be:

Does the whole course need to be recertified or if nothing has changed and he has all the paper work, can we just use the old paper work up to the 5 mile point? And go from there?

What would you suggest as far as getting the course certified?

Thanks Pete,

Jim

MY ANSWER

Dear Jim,

The course is 15 years old. You mentioned using the old paper work up to the 5 mile point, and going on from there to the finish.

The ten year expiration policy came about because renewal applications sometimes lacked credibility. Some courses will survive ten years with no changes at all. Most will not.

While it seems strange to decertify an absolutely unchanged course, the only person who really knows the course is the original measurer, and after ten years even he or she may not remember what was there. I believe the ten year policy to be a good idea.

I think the entire course should be remeasured, and this agrees with present policy. Even if it was not expired, it’s rarely a good idea for one measurer to build on the work of another, as would be the case if anybody but Mark did the remeasurement.

I’m going to put this exchange on the Bulletin Board.
Original Post
As usual, I'll echo Pete here.

My experience is that most measurements involve an adjustment of some kind. Personally I tend to end up with a shorter measurement on the second ride. It could be because I know the course better and correct any small riding errors I made on the first ride. It could be because the temperature is usually rising and I'm measuring with a larger constant.

Unless the course is a long one, I generally don't adjust the intermediate splits, because they're generally not certified and the adjustment would mean less than a second on most runners' split times.

If, for example, you had a 10K where the two measurements differed by slightly less than the allowable tolerance, and the second measurement was shorter and the adjustment was made only at the finish, and you re-routed and re-measured from the 5 mile mark and added the difference between 5 miles and 10 km from the 5 mile point of the old course, you come awfully close to eating up the SCPF.

The only individual who should make such an adjustment is the original measurer. I remain less than convinced that ALL course certifications should expire after ten years, because many courses can survive at least that long. But given the relatively little time it takes to re-measure a course 10K or shorter I don't have a problem with requiring that courses be re-measured every ten years.

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