yeah, this is sort of a negative thread. i don't think much is served by naming names but, if i'm allowed a general comment, yes, there have been a few 'big' events over the past 25 years that have gone uncertified. but that # is small. what i've done from time to time in the past was contact folks that staged/sponsored lots of 'smaller' events and offered to come in and measure their courses to cert standards - and charge a reduced fee...like about 2/3 less. none bought my idea. to each their own. i tried. now we've got an active squadron of good meausurers in MI, including one in the UP (Upper Peninsula for the uninitiated). with this development in the past 5 years, there has been a HUGE uptick in certifications. good stuff!