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I am currently in process of measuring a Marathon but due to traffic and time, will be doing it over several weekend in various sections. For instance, last weekend, I measured a 6-mile section then adjusted the 6-mile point based on the two rides and sum-of-shortest mile splits. Then, I measured a two mile section from the adjusted 6-mile point and adjusted the 8-mile point. I will now be measuring from that point. And, will have a couple of more sections that I will handle in a similar method.
My question is, what is the proper method of submitting the paperwork for a course that is measure in various sections with each section being adjusted ?


Ken Hardwick
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Posts: 25 | Location: Norman,Oklahoma | Registered: 02 December 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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You should contact your Regional Certifier and explain what you have been doing. This person will guide you as to how the paperwork should be submitted.
If you have any other questions please contact me at newmangc@cox.net

Good luck,

Gene
 
Posts: 230 | Registered: 26 October 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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SEGMENTED MEASUREMENTS – WHAT I LIKE TO SEE

Measuring in segments works, but the data can be confusing to a reviewer. Here is what I like to receive:

1) Standard Application for Certification of a Road Course.

2) Course map, two copies. One copy should show the end points of the various measured segments. This helps me visualize what was done and how the pieces fit together

3) Treat each segment as a separate course. Give me calibration and measurement data for each segment, clipped together, one bundle for each segment.

In broad strokes, that’s it. If I don’t understand I’ll get back to you.

I often measure in segments, especially if it is a marathon course. I have learned that it’s best for me to measure from landmark to landmark rather than from start-mile 1 – mile 2 – etc. I may have to measure the course again next year, and landmarks stay put, while paintmarks don’t. Often only a bit of the course may change, and using landmarks allows you to use old data for a new course.

I generally do not lay out miles on my first rides. Instead, I measure pieces until they fit to make a complete course. Then, on a second ride (or rides) I’ll lay out the splits and do a final adjustment.

A normal marathon course typically takes me four days, as the full 42 km is more than I care to ride at once.
 
Posts: 1187 | Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA | Registered: 23 October 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Segmented Measurement Map

Here's a link to a map of a half marathon I measured in 8 sections over 4 days. The sections are colour-coded and listed in chronological order as they appear in the measurement data.

http://www.mts.net/~llacroix/w...arathon_sections.pdf

Laurent
 
Posts: 30 | Registered: 24 October 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Laurent,

Your map showing the measured segments in order is what I hope for but never get. Very nice work.

I’m having trouble finding the second turn-around though. Perhaps it is the “woodshed?” Let me explain.

When I was a baby engineer I designed a small building to house a pumping station. My boss looked at it and asked me “Where is the woodshed?” I stammered in confusion until he told me to always put a woodshed or something equally unnecessary in the plan. This gives the reviewer something to immediately find fault with, and removes some of his zeal to find more.

I’d love to receive maps like this when reviewing.
 
Posts: 1187 | Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA | Registered: 23 October 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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The turn-around is at the intersection of Oakdale and Roblin,around the median. It was indicated in the list of split locations, which I removed and replaced with the colour-coded legend of sections measured. I've updated the map to show the missing information.

Laurent
 
Posts: 30 | Registered: 24 October 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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